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Technology, Business, and the Future: A CIO Panel Discussion
Tuesday, May 25

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CIO Panel (left to right): Regis Delayat, John Kellington, Ann Purr, Gregory Maciag, Chris Chartrand & Larry Boyle.
Legacy systems, the relationship between business and IT, and current IT priorities were among the topics covered during Confidently Meeting an Uncertain Future – A CIO Panel during ACORD LOMA Insurance Systems Forum. Moderated by ACORD President and CEO Gregory A. Maciag, the panel included Larry Boyle, senior vice president and CIO, Odyssey Reinsurance of America, John Kellington, senior vice president and chief technology officer, Ohio Casualty Group, Regis Delayat, group CIO, SCOR Division Vie, Chris Chartrand, senior vice president and CIO, GE Financial, and Ann Purr, second vice president, Information Management, LOMA.

Topics were based on the responses given by attendees during the conference’s Sunday Opening Session, which provided live audience responses to a wide range of questions. The CIOs used these results as a stepping off point for their discussions.

A common perception is that the insurance industry is behind technologically versus other members of the financial services community. Purr believed that the industry is progressing and the issue is more of how one interprets the meaning of “behind.” She recognized that other financial services members, such as mutual funds systems, began to provide such things as online fund balances earlier, but the insurance industry is following closely. Chartrand agreed that insurance was behind stating that he has worked in other industries such as manufacturing and this industry is lagging in such things as automating their supply chain. Kellington, however, emphasized that the needs of the insurance industry were very complex and specific. “We are not producing widgets but customized legal agreements.” Boyle thought that greater automation was possible. “Standardizing the models and data structures is a solution in my mind,” he said.

MAciag and Kellington
Gregory Maciag and John Kellington discuss the complex needs of the insurance industry.
The growing emphasis on data reporting also generated discussion. Boyle underscored that better data management supports an improved understanding of the business. “Standardized information needs to be better organized and shared with interested people only,” said Delayat. “At Swiss Re we are talking about creating ‘business intelligence’ for the profit and benefit of the business.” Chartrand added that there is a need to “get data out much faster,” noting that his company has a CEO “cockpit” showing the health of the business that is updated daily. Other processing dashboards are updated every five minutes. GE is also looking to provide reporting tools that allow units to explore their own information more easily.

Legacy systems were again identified as the greatest technology hurdle and some panelists recognized a trend in the last few years away from wrapping and toward replacing. As Kellington joked, the true definition of legacy is probably “anything that is in production.” Boyle added that the cost/benefit equation often leads to the desire to “get a few more years out of the system but you can only go so far extending the life.” Chartrand stated that in addition to wrapping, GE uses another option — outsourcing. Third party administrators can use hard to find specialists in maintaining these older systems.

“Legacy systems tend not to go away,” said Boyle, adding, “we decommissioned a system and that doesn’t happen often.” Chartrand said that when he joined GE Financial, he inherited seven legacy systems.

When asked if they thought technology has reached a level of maturity to enable web services, 60% of conference attendees using their audience response systems, said yes, another 30% said no. Panelists disagreed and felt that the technology is available. Kellington described it not as a technology issue but “a standards issue whether you can have a transaction between business partners that can read and write and be understood.” Chartrand commented that Web services “are here to stay, but clearly if they were to standardize more quickly every industry would pick them up quicker.” Boyle agreed that the technology is mature and that it is just a matter of determining its best application.”

The ratio of budget spent on maintenance versus new development was discussed as well. Delayat believed that it was at 75% for operations versus 25% for projects. Chartrand believed it was more an 80/20 split. However, the specifics as to what was included as maintenance, such as telecommunications, license fees, software and hardware amortization, and other items, made the real proportions hard to determine.

Maciag and Donaldson
Gregory Maciag and Thomas Donaldson conclude the session.
Another result of the audience response survey taken on Sunday showed that 78% of attendees felt that the best approach to communication between trading partners was through implementing standards. Boyle added that “this is a no brainer.” Delayat added that SCOR was “part of that 78%.”

When surveyed, 54% of attendees viewed technology as a strategic solution rather than a competitive advantage or cost of doing business. “Absolutely…it has to be a strategic business solution,” agreed Kellington. Boyle added that some things are still a cost of doing business, such as the new regulations of Sarbanes Oxley, adding that “you have a choice, do it or go to jail.” To be seen as a center of value, not only a center of cost, said Delayat, IT has to earn the trust of the business, and that is the CIO’s job.

When it came to being a technology first mover versus an early adopter or fast follower, most panelists characterized themselves as early adopters. “You don’t want to be on the bleeding edge, too much pain,” Chartrand stated. He also emphasized that the industry needs to look outside itself for innovation. Boyle saw Odyssey Re as occupying a sweet spot between early adopter and fast follower.

The session concluded with Gregory Maciag and Thomas Donaldson, president and CEO, LOMA thanking the attendees for coming to this first joint conference and reminding the audience that next year, the event would be held in Orlando, Florida.

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